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Started by arseno911 at 02-02-2010 4:54 PM. Topic has 7 replies.

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   02-05-2010, 1:19 AM
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Thanks Reg.  :)  Very glad you are smiling.  :):)
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   02-04-2010, 12:05 PM
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Hi Doug.
I just wanted to say I like reading your posts.
You put a smile on my face this morning.
Thanks Reg


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   02-03-2010, 3:12 PM
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I've made no epithical arguments nor personal attacks against Dr. Zamboni.  And unfortunately the truth about reality is never democratic: please don't erect stawmen for you to refute with wibble on my behalf (it makes me very cranky).    I merely state the facts.  Your emotional reaction to the lack of evidence to support your assertion is noted.  How am I being undemocratic?  What am I being if I'm not?  Please think before you post.

As a matter of interest, have you heard that two of his patients have died and that most of them, including his wife, are unavailable for falsification?  So my "opinion" is neither here nor there where it concerns truth pertaining to my health.  Since you assert without evidence that he did indeed find something, apparently "fact" according to you, can you please point me toward the evidence you personally have so I may share with you in this marvel of medical achievement?  Please enlighten and educate me.  Dr. Zamboni has also failed to do proper double blind studies which makes all his data useless.  And need I say that testing an unproven hypothisis on anyone, nevermind a family member, is completely unethical.

I don't feel sorry that I demand evidence for anything in my life and I don't feel your claim that my skepticism is "negative" is a valid complaint.  It is rather the contrary as I seek the end to mine and every others' suffering and that means what ever is in the best interest of MS research.  Moreover, rational and critical thought demands skepticism in this case and it is down right justified. 

I'm sorry, I just don't see how diverting resources to improper, unproven research is going to benifit MS patients (ie. me).  Can you please explain how this movement you are pushing in my face will benifit me or any other MS patient in medical terms?

This is all positive, genuine questioning of unvalidated hypothesis.  If you are that eager to belive it is a cure than I do think your pity for me is dearly misplaced.

-D


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   02-03-2010, 2:12 PM
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DEAR DOUG,

Ok... This is your opinion. Keep it to yourself. Call Dr. Zamboni what ever you wish, and try to say hes an unprofessional scientist, but fact still remains in what he found, and he has concrete HHUMAN subjects to validate that they`ve been rid of this disease. Negativity has no place here, and democracy will prevail. Sorry you feel this way.



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   02-02-2010, 10:26 PM
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I hear ya!  Just tell them thanks for the concern and you'll look into it.  They don't have to know how far off the mark they are.  :)  We know.  That is enough.  ;)
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   02-02-2010, 9:44 PM
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I find that people won't leave me alone on this subject! Everyone who doesnt have this illness has seen the episode of W5 and are now telling me how I should get treated, like they are suddenly the experts! It kinda made me a little angry and aggrivated because all the sudden the everyday population knows better becasue of a tv program and don't understand why I'm not on a plane on my way to Italy. It's quite frustrating and being so new to the disease I am just trusting the nurses and Neurologists that are treating me not a poorly unresearched theory. I'm just tired of being bombarded and this is the first time I could rant hahaha!One of the local radio stations announced that there was now a cure for MS! Holy crap that was an annoying day haha.
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   02-02-2010, 7:12 PM
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This story is one of the worst things to happen to MS research in my memory.  It gives people false hope and diverts money that would otherwise be used for real research that is on going and close to amazing breakthroughs, FOR REAL.  W5 went down in respect from me when it aired this story.  For shame.  For shame. 

You'd be doing MS research a big favor by forgetting about it.  There's a reason most MS professionals won't look at it: because it's bad science and a lot of it was done in an unethical manner by North American standards not to mentions Zamboni's work proves exactly nothing.  He's harming the people he says he's trying to help.


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   02-02-2010, 4:54 PM
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